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posted on 1-10-2004 at 01:22 AM Edit Post
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Help me out with this one...

The undersigned to an infamous deliverance,
And having contrary advice from the multitude:
Monarch changes put in danger over thought,
Shut up in a cage they will see each other face to fac





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posted on 1-10-2004 at 01:32 AM Edit Post
King and JR in a cage match for control of the announce team?

Or Bischoff v. Austin in a cage?





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posted on 1-10-2004 at 05:14 AM Edit Post
A lot of them boggle me, but this one frustrates me the most. The only guy I can guess is Sean O'Haire. Any thoughts?

O Adonis! You look the part and have much help from above!
If only you had skills and wit to match.
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posted on 1-10-2004 at 05:17 AM Edit Post
Adonis is Randy Orton. That is my best guess. I think in an earlier quatrain Rick had compared The Rock and Randy being 3rd generation superstars, and I believe he referred to Randy as Adonis. Just my guess though.





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posted on 1-10-2004 at 05:22 AM Edit Post
Eli: I don't know possibly a Shane v. Vince Cage match for control? They would be the two Monarchs of the company jockeying for ultimate control of the company.

Niles: Randy Orton. He fits the image of a stereotypical Adonis. The help from above would be Flair and HHH pulling up the card though many think he does not quite have the mic skills or in-ring skills to deserve it at this point.

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posted on 1-10-2004 at 05:50 AM Edit Post
oh those are about wrestling? i thought it was telling about the upcoming year for the world.

oops.





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posted on 1-10-2004 at 07:07 AM Edit Post
The one or two quatrains that I can't figure out are really killing me.

Right now I'm stuck on who the "fourth prime" who will join the "Worldwide Leader" is... Knowing the other three just makes it worse.

And quatrain 31 is driving me insane too. I feel like its going to be blatantly obvious when someone points it out to me:

Come suddenly the terror will be great,
Hidden by the principal ones of the affair:
And the lady on the charcoal will no longer be in sight,
Thus little by little will the great ones be angered.





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posted on 1-10-2004 at 09:02 AM Edit Post
I was just about to ask about this one but then I realized it was Scott Hall and Kevin Nash. Yer off your rocker if you think Hall's demons are going anywhere!

Preferring the out to the inside, they are reunited.
Both are well, free from different demons.
Though the Orient will beckon,
They will join the Orange Immortal down south.





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posted on 1-10-2004 at 09:28 AM Edit Post
You're not the only one who's stumped by quatrain 31, Lucky. One more time, it's:

Come suddenly the terror will be great,
Hidden by the principal ones of the affair:
And the lady on the charcoal will no longer be in sight,
Thus little by little will the great ones be angered.

I was able to figure out most of them, but this one is driving me nuts. Anyone have a clue here?





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posted on 1-10-2004 at 09:51 PM Edit Post
And this one...

Now toiling in obscurity, some will finally join the Worldwide Leader.
The exploding star, once of the World Order Blue,
Another, he is the fourth prime,
And two who, together, were victorious in a contest of another sort.





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posted on 1-10-2004 at 09:58 PM Edit Post
Think OVW for all of these.

quote:
The exploding star, once of the World Order Blue,


Don't think Meanie.

quote:
Another, he is the fourth prime


Prime Numbers. Look it up.

quote:
And two who, together, were victorious in a contest of another sort.


Maven. Nidia. Jackie Gayda. Shaniqua. And?

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posted on 1-10-2004 at 10:05 PM Edit Post
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Originally posted by thecubsfan
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Another, he is the fourth prime


Prime Numbers. Look it up.



Oh fuck, duh. Why didn't I even bother to just work that out without even thinking of wrestling? Geez...





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posted on 1-10-2004 at 10:13 PM Edit Post
Well, we won't know how accurate the prophecies are until after they happen.

Some weren't vague enough. He should have brought up "the one with the tattoos" in a couple of quatrains or "he of the strange mouth".

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posted on 1-10-2004 at 10:29 PM Edit Post
I think the exploding star could be Nova. Maybe I am way off with that. The prime number one I can't figure out, and the two who won a contest of another sort are John and Matt from TE III.





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posted on 1-11-2004 at 12:44 AM Edit Post
Definitely Nova and Matt and John.

Who the hell is Seven?


And I don't get quatrain 31 either.





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Seven's supposed to be a more talent Bautista... I think.





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posted on 1-11-2004 at 01:09 AM Edit Post
Didn't Dustin Runnels do a gimmick as wreslter named Seven in WCW a few years ago. Seeing as he has been released from the WWE I think we can rule that one out.

There is a wrestler listed on OVW's website named Seven. Doesn't look familiar, but they have him listed at 6' 5"/275.

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posted on 1-11-2004 at 06:09 AM Edit Post
quote:
Originally posted by nilesanderson
A lot of them boggle me, but this one frustrates me the most. The only guy I can guess is Sean O'Haire. Any thoughts?

O Adonis! You look the part and have much help from above!
If only you had skills and wit to match.
All things remain possible, but not without improvements.
You may be less the Great One, and more the Package Total.


Billy Gunn.

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posted on 1-11-2004 at 07:48 AM Edit Post
quote:
Originally posted by Lorraine
quote:
Originally posted by nilesanderson
A lot of them boggle me, but this one frustrates me the most. The only guy I can guess is Sean O'Haire. Any thoughts?

O Adonis! You look the part and have much help from above!
If only you had skills and wit to match.
All things remain possible, but not without improvements.
You may be less the Great One, and more the Package Total.


Billy Gunn.
Orton. Definetly Orton. Less like rocky, more like Lugar.





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Almost complete translation of Quatrains

Took some time to translate the Quatrains. Didn't get them all but most of them. Corrections or additions are appreciated. Thanks

The Prophecies of Scaiadamus
Millennium III, Century I, Year IV

1.
Alone in his study, the seer begins his work
Consuming the sacred spirits until attuned.
Then begin the future visions, from centuries hence,
These events take place in the circle made square.

2.
The battleground is silent as the New Year is welcomed,
The Worldwide Leader is the leader of a field of one.
Complacency will provide the competition primary.
The insurgent from the South will remain in the far distance.

WWE’s the only major game in town with no challenge and it’s stagnation will be it’s main competitor. TNA won’t be much of a challenge

3.
O, crown of the States United!
Will you be defended in battle, or left to rot?
Only once freed from the grasp of the Giant
Will the title once again shine bright.

The U.S. title is worthless as long as on the Big Show

4.
The Hero, the Cheater, the Poet,
One will wrest this crown away while the other two stand ready.
The son of the brother of the Cheater,
He should not be forgotten, either.

Angle, Eddie and Cena will all be in contendership for the championship. Don’t forget Chavo either

5.
Hero of the Games, but not for long!
He of three virtues will oppose the Cheater,
Estranging the subjects in the doing.
Yet, attempts on the seat of power shall be his.

Angle will turn heel to fight Eddie but only Angle will truly be a threat to the title.

6.
The younger son made King will put his father to death,
After the conflict very dishonest death:
Inscription found, suspicion will bring remorse,
When the wolf driven out lies down on the bedstead.

Not too sure, something with Shane and Vince???

7.
The despised Princess has gone missing!
But she shall not be silent all these 12 months.
The balding but capable Jew will find himself ousted upon her return.
The kingdom would revolt, but they like her bags of fun.

Steph will eventually come back and Heyman will be gone again.

8.
Son of the Son of the Father, he is an Adonis.
Another star has risen from Generation the Third.
Comparisons abound to the one dubbed Great.
However, many questions remain.

There are similarities between Orton and the Rock but the verdict is still out on Orton

9.
O Adonis! You look the part and have much help from above!
If only you had skills and wit to match.
All things remain possible, but not without improvements.
You may be less the Great One, and more the Package Total.

Orton’s got the look and the push to be a major star but he may turn out to be like Luger instead of the Rock.

10.
The first version is now in his third year,
But the hardships of the past will continue.
His leap to the second day from the fifth will prove fruitless.
The Crown of the Continents should be his, but will elude him.

Matt Hardy’s career troubles (being held down) will continue. He should be IC champ but won’t get it.

11.
In the New City, at forty-five degrees,
Proximate to the Ides of March,
A great conflagration shall take place, the twentieth of its kind.
The battlefield will be ruled by the Wolverine.

Benoit will be the MVP of Wrestlemania.

12.
Once ascending to the throne,
The Wolverine will win over the kingdom's subjects.
His battles against the Hero Gone Evil
Will amass more stars than in all the Heavens.

Benoit will be the man once he gets the title and we can look to another huge Benoit-Angle feud.

13.
A woman who looks fair in battle or out,
She will never be far from the Queen's crown.
Pursued by the Ayatollah, she will eventually be his.
But it is not a coupling that will last the year.

Trish will always be in the hunt for the Women’s Title and she’ll hook up with Jericho for a part of the year.

14.
The undersigned to an infamous deliverance,
And having contrary advice from the multitude:
Monarch changes put in danger over thought,
Shut up in a cage they will see each other face to face.

Not sure. Some kinda cage match with the King and someone????

15.
The Princess has a secret husband, one once known to all
A public schism masked their continuing union.
Accused of wrongdoings by those possessing the secret knowledge,
The pair will hide in shadows, as long as it suits them.

Steph and Triple H will continue to not be linked on screen.

16.
Aged and of orange hue,
The Immortal One will make another return.
In a small pond, he will be a big fish.
His legacy is diminished with each passing minute.

Hogan tarnishes his legacy by going to TNA or some small organization.

17.
The Cheater, also a Liar and a Thief,
Will find himself at war for the biggest gold.
But cursed forever to toil in obscurity,
He will fall short.

Eddie will never be champ but will be a contender.

18.
Thought broken and banished to the sidelines,
He will bring Love to all Mankind in his return.
Many will be saddened, however,
When he is asked to bow down before the unworthy Adonis.

Foley will return and put Orton over.

19.
In the sixth month, at 4:20, he will depart.
He has had much success, but is not happy,
Leaves with only three letters and some devil weed.
The Worldwide Leader does not mourn the loss.

The WWE will be stupid and let RVD go for good once his contract ends in June.

20.
The Brink, the Precipice, the Fringe, the Verge!
In his prime and restored to health,
He will finally distinguish himself in single combat.
The crown of the States United will fall to him late in the year.

Edge will return from injury and make a big name for himself taking the U.S. title.

21.
The duke of a land called Bling Times Two
He has won many honors although despised by all,
And when beloved was left to toil in shadows.
This will change.

Jericho should have a break out year.

22.
On the second day, only five might be king.
The Prince, the Red Machine, the Jester, the Born Again, or the Jew.
If Abel leaps from the fifth day, he might reign, as well.
The throne is closed to all others.

Not too sure who The Prince is (Shane??? Probably not) but this refers to the main contenders for King of the Ring. Red Machine is obviously King. Jester is Jericho (see below). Born Again is Michaels. Not too sure who Jew is since we awesome Goldberg may be gone by then (see below). Abel is the Undertaker.

23.
The Man, sixteen times the King!
If there is one who might stop the unworthy Adonis, it is him.
He may obtain the Crown of the Continents, although briefly.
Best days behind him, the Man will contemplate the End.

Flair may feud with Orton and take the IC title for a bit and may retire by year’s end (riiiight).

24.
The unhappy abandoned one will die of grief,
His conqueress will celebrate the hecatomb:
Pristine law, free edict drawn up,
The wall and the Prince falls on the seventh day.

Not sure.

25.
O Poet! Your rhymes enrage the savage beasts!
There is no limit to the goals you may realize,
But this is not to be your time at the very top.
Settle for the secondary crown and bide quietly.

Cena will have a big year but won’t be pushed to the Word Title yet but will take the U.S. belt.

26.
Abel is back to do battle with his brother,
The coffin, the grave could not contain him.
He is a Phenom, returning from the past, though not the dead.
Hell, fire, and brimstone confront the brothers.

Kane vs. Undertaker Round 10,000

27.
A star on his chest, the stunning one is a now a joke.
After a return to battle, his status is restored.
A match at the Great Conflagration is inevitable,
Perhaps against the one who could be his twin?

Austin’s a joke as the Sheriff but may regain his self-respect by battling at Wrestlemania, perhaps with Goldberg.

28.
The East will rise again!
Relieved of his crown, the sword of the Samurai is not dead.
Backed by force of numbers, he'll regain gold,
After others fail to fill his sandals.

Tajiri’s the man and no one can touch him and he WILL get the Cruiserweight belt back with his boys backing him.

29.
He has been born again,
Now as adept as in his first life.
He will become King for the fifth time,
And it may well be the reign most productive.

Michaels will be back to top form and get the Title again and it may be his best reign yet.

30.
Preferring the out to the inside, they are reunited.
Both are well, free from different demons.
Though the Orient will beckon,
They will join the Orange Immortal down south.

Hall and Nash will put their “demons” in the past and pass up Japan to join Hogan in TNA.

31.
Come suddenly the terror will be great,
Hidden by the principal ones of the affair:
And the lady on the charcoal will no longer be in sight,
Thus little by little will the great ones be angered.

Don’t know. Maybe something to do with WWE stock???

32.
O Unstable Wench! This shall be your year!
The subjects can ignore your assets no longer.
Crazy yet capable, only one question remains.
"Will you bring the chancellor of the First Night with you?".

Victoria will break out this year and Stevie may or may not be along for the ride.

33.
He claims ownership of a population,
Yet they utter nary a peep.
His partnership with the Jester, the one called Ayatollah, dissolves,
Leaving him little more than a specter.

Christian will toil in obscurity once he completely breaks with Jericho.

34.
Falsely accused by the lord of the Land of Memphis,
She of the low gravity center will reign too briefly as queen.
Her skills unparalleled, but unappreciated, elude respect.
Do they not realize the cushion would render the pushing sublime?

Molly’s the best women’s worker in the world and Lawler was a fool to make fun of her ass the other year and I think Rick wants to get a piece of Molly’s pie or something.

35.
At the Great Conflagration in month the third,
The Worldwide Leader will stumble.
Expectations too high, a dearth of guests will disappoint.
The Orange Immortal, the villain of Glasgow, Calgary's spurned? No.

Wrestlemania won’t live up to expectations. Hogan, Piper and Bret won’t show.

36.
Bloated, lasting from dusk till midnight,
The great spectacle needs more fire power.
The choice of minstrels is suspect at best,
Only Charlie Hustle's defeat of the Monster can save them.

Wrestlemania will be too long at the rumored 5 hours and more star power will be needed to make the show worthwhile. Is Rick calling for Charlie Haas to face Lesnar?????

37.
The wretched black bird, stripped of his Flock,
Will win the crown of lesser import.
Despite the folly of the Immortal Orange,
His shall be the quest that captures imaginations.

Raven will take the TNA title, inspite of Hogan.

38.
Now toiling in obscurity, some will finally join the Worldwide Leader.
The exploding star, once of the World Order Blue,
Another, he is the fourth prime,
And two who, together, were victorious in a contest of another sort.

Developmental talent will be called up and given a push. Nova, Seven and TE’s Matt and John

39.
The mighty Jew, his allegiance to the Kingdom expiring,
May not remain past the third month.
To the dismay of all, the Man Beast will be exiled, as well.
And yet the Strongman and the Load remain.

Goldberg may not renew. Rhyno will be released. Too bad Mark Henry and either Rikishi or Albert won’t be.

40.
The women will not be spared the sting of the sword,
Ebony, Ivory, it will not matter.
Still remarkable in her fifth decade, one will fall who shouldn't.
So will the final Runnels and she from the barony of Texas.

Some of the aged Diva’s will be let go too including Ivory, Jacqueline and Terri. Not too sure who the “fifth decade” one is. Ivory perhaps? She’s not in her 50’s is she?

41.
Self-proclaimed they may be,
Yet in these 12 months they will be proven true.
Victorious against giants and those clad in leather,
The Swirl will improve upon their past.

Haas and Benjamin will have a break out year.

42.
The Secret Prince, the Geyser of Aquafina!
He will fancy himself a thesbian.
The subjects care not what he does,
As long as he leaves the Gold for someone more deserving.

Triple H will go to Hollywood and the fans won’t care as long as he leaves the Title alone.

43.
He will come to expose the false topography,
The urns of the tombs will be opened.
Sect and holy philosophy to thrive,
Black for white and the new for the old.

Not sure. Someone new joins creative and changes things up by recycling old storyline or something???

44.
Landlocked in the center of the New Continent
The pundit with the greatest wisdom
Will continue the finest work in all the lands.
Those who need a torch to observe their surroundings are fools.

The Rick is the best in the IWC, Torch and Observer readers and idiots for not sticking with the Rick as their news source.

45.
The Royal Family will recede in importance.
The Princess and her secret husband in frequent shadows,
The Son of the Father may not emerge all year,
And gods willing, the King will see no battles.

The McMahon’s won’t push themselves as hard this year. Steph and Trips will reduce their push, Shane may not appear at all this year and hopefully Vince won’t wrestle any.

46.
The man named a mineral, he belongs to The People.
His battles will number in digits single.
However, increased frequency may be possible in years future,
After he fails to Walk Tall.

The Rock will have only a handful of matches but may be back more if his next movie bombs.

47.
Even if the Great One does not Walk Tall,
His aspirations in the West may still be fulfilled.
A lesser role in the second of its kind
Will be the one that opens the kingdom's eyes.

Not too sure what “lesser role in second of it’s kind” is. Sequel to Scorpion King? Lesser role in some movie’s sequel? TV?

48.
The gods in the boxes monitored by Nielsen
Will tell the same tale as the year before,
The illusion of growth, the reality of stagnation.
The coffers do not empty, but do not overflow.

Ratings will be the same. Overall business will stagnant will not major losses but yet more major growth.

49.
At year's end, two will stand above all others.
The second will be the Ayatollah's day, and the fifth the Wolverine's.
The Born Again and the Hero will follow closely,
With the Red Machine and the Cheater surprising many.

Jericho and Benoit will be the best champs of the year. Michaels and Angle will be close as well with both Kane and Eddie having had great years near the top also.
50.
The seer has consumed the spirits, and produced the quatrains fifty.
Now, the visions grow cloudy.
All he can see in the future is food, water, and sleep,
At least until next year.

[Edited on 1-11-2004 by ynae316]

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posted on 1-11-2004 at 11:49 AM Edit Post
Ahhh, I stand corrected. Almost forgot Gunn existed as he's been so off-on over the years. Yeah...too bad he's still around too. Geez, well, Vince is persistent with their pushes no? Feh...
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posted on 1-11-2004 at 01:11 PM Edit Post
Verse 36: I'm assuming 'Charlie Hustle' is Chris Benoit; i.e. no frills, get the job done.

Verse 31: This follows on from the Outsiders/Hogan verse, is it still a reference to TNA perhaps?






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posted on 1-11-2004 at 02:09 PM Edit Post
In all instances, "The Prince" is HHH (he's married to The Princess)





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posted on 1-11-2004 at 04:51 PM Edit Post
Hi,
Here's my take on the fifty quatrains:
1. Rick's got the buzz on and is making predictions.
2. The WWF's main competition is itself and stagnation. NWA-TNA will remain a distant second.
3. Please get the US Title off of the Big Show. He's done nothing with it.
4. Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero or John Cena will beat the Big Show for the US Title, but don't forget Chavo.
5. Kurt Angle will turn and feud with Eddie Guerrero and get title shots.
6. Don't know.
7. Stephanie and her ample bosom are going to take back control of Smackdown.
8. Randy Orton is like the Rock, or is he?
9. Randy Orton has got to prove he has more than "the look", or else he will end up more like Lex Luger than the Rock.
10. Matt Hardy jumped from Smackdown to Raw, but they've got nothing interesting for him, like a run as IC champ.
11. At Wrestlemania XX in New York City, Chris Benoit will win the WWE Title and be the MVP.
12. The fans will finally recognize Benoit as championship material after some kickass title matches against Kurt Angle.
13. Trish Stratus and Chris Jericho will finally end up together, but won't stay that way.
14. Don't know.
15. Stephanie McMahon and Triple H are married for real, but will remain on separate WWE shows and divorced in storylines. The smarks still hate them.
16. Hulk Hogan will wrestle in NWA-TNA, but it's probably not the best career move.
17. Eddie Guerrero will get a WWE Title shot, but not the belt.
18. Mick Foley will return to job to Randy Orton. (Please no!)
19. RVD's contract will not be renewed.
20. Edge will get the US Title later this year after his comeback from neck surgery.
21. Chris Jericho so far has only had a real push as a heel. Not anymore.
22. Triple H, Kane, Chris Jericho, HBK and Goldberg are the only people in the Raw World title picture, unless Undertaker jumps from Smackdown.
23. Ric Flair may beat Randy Orton and get the IC Title, but he may also think about retiring.
24. Don't know
25. John Cena will be great, but for now he needs to be happy with just the US Title.
26. Undertaker will face Kane, again.
27. "Sheriff" Austin may face Goldberg at Wrestlemania XX.
28. Tajiri will once again become Cruiserweight champ with help from his posse.
29. Shawn Michaels will win the World Title again and may have a good long reign.
30. Scott Hall and Kevin Nash may go to NWA-TNA even though Japan is interested.
31. Don't know.
32. Victoria will get a push, but will it help Steven Richards get off of Heat?
33. Christian, once he's done with Chris Jericho, will be left to toil in the midcard.
34. Molly Holly's deserving, unrespected title reign will come to an end soon.
35. Wrestlemania XX will be underwhelming due to the lack of Hulk Hogan, Roddy Piper and Bret Hart.
36. Wrestlemania XX will be overlong with lame musical guests. The only guest spot that can save things is Pete Rose getting the best of Kane.
37. Raven will win the NWA title, and despite Hulk Hogan being there, he will be the most interesting part of the show.
38. Nova, Seven and Matt and John from Tough Enough 3 will get a shot in the WWE.
39. Goldberg and Rhyno will likely leave, but Mark Henry and Billy Gunn will stay.
40. Ivory, Terri and Jacqueline will be released. (5th decade means over 40, so that's Ivory)
41. The World's Greatest Tag Team will prove themselves to be just that after beating the Bashams and other teams.
42. Triple H will scale back his WWE schedule for an acting career, thankfully leaving him out of the world title picture.
43. Don't know.
44. Read Online Onslaught, not those other sites.
45. The McMahons will not have as much TV time as they have had up until now(again thankfully).
46. The Rock may not wrestle much in the near future, but things might pick up if his movie career doesn't pan out.
47. Even if the Rock's starring roles don't work out, his supporting role in the Get Shorty sequel could turn some heads.
48. The WWE will make more money, but only because they're charging more for their product and not because more people are buying it.
49. At the end of the year Chris Jericho will be the Raw champ, with Shawn Michaels at the top of the card with Kane, while on Smackdown, Chris Benoit will be champ, Kurt Angle and Eddie Guerrero will be main eventing.
50. I hope Rick doesn't get a hangover.

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posted on 1-11-2004 at 07:28 PM Edit Post
Reference to urns and tombs in 43 suggests Undertaker, perhaps with Paul Bearer or Brother Love?






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